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[Tom Plewer]

Moechte hier den Eintrag von dilbert_g von breakfornews.com wiedergeben, weil er so
nett auf meine Fragen geantwortet hat:
1. Name of AJ father
2. doc or link showing, that he is father of AJ
3. "" that he is John Birch Society

Any facts showing connections between CIA and John Birch Society?

In your opinion (speculation...): What is their purpose? To present facts about
planed NWO and destroying the credebility of it? Building an american facist
movement? Leading social acrivists astray?
Is that, what in you opinion is going on with LaRouche and his minions (except that
he is a megalomeniac and greedy)?


Tom,
I don't know Jones' father's name, but Jones has stated proudly on air that his
father was/is a member of JBS, and that he therefore had a "soft spot" for JBS, due
to his dear old dad. JBS at one time openly bashed Jones (really?) for his 9-11
Truth activism, though a former JBS member and gentleman of quiet intellect G.
Edward Griffin also told I-Net radio host Scott Horton a.k.a. "Philip Dru" that he
believed that 9-11 was probably an inside job by the govt or such characters.

Griffin does not blame this on fascists who want to wage world war for American
hegemony for the ruling class -- even though that's basically what they have stated
and written, behind the patriotic façade, and what they have always done, going back
to the Monroe Doctrine, the Open Door Policy (force open the doors to markets in
Asia). Griffin blames "collectivism", as if labor unions or community social
organizers caused 9-11 and the invasion of Iraq by supporting "big govt". No, it
couldn't have been the desire of the elites for Empire and hijacking the legitimate
govt to achieve it, whether actual imperialism or the more subtle form of economic
neo-imperialism and setting up puppet govts. Griffin says not a word about how giant
multi-national corporations and banks, and corporations which have also become banks
(GMAC, Ford Credit, etc.) are the biggest part of the problem, how it's the seamless
merger of multi-national corporations and govts. (I keep saying "multi-national",
because that's a hint at what this "one world govt" is about. This is not
speculation. The people in power are openly stating that, including on right wing
shows like Townhall.)

Griffin does not complain that corporations and their leaders regularly
"collectivise" themselves into national and international institutions and think
tanks to promote their common interests in the political sphere, like less taxes and
less regulation for corporations and less regulation of banking.

Apparently JBS either "came around" on 9-11, or at least they decided not to bicker
any more over such differences with Jones. In reality, it's probably all part of the
one psyop. That's what Intelligence-oriented propaganda organizations do --- create
real splits and squabbles via infiltrators to break up movements they don't control,
OR more often create fake squabbles within groups they do control ... like Democrats
vs. Republicans.

Jones had John McManus, President of JBS on his show, and lavished praise on him. I
think I said "McMaster" above. It's McManus.

JBS is the polished arm of the fascist right. Just like there's a variety of
Left-leaning groups from those which circle around Hillary to those which circle
around Kucinich, to Move-On, to more radical Leftists who collect in various
semi-communist orgs only to roll in with Democrats. (United for Peace and Justice
was one of those groups practicing "ineffectiveness tactics" on antiwar protesting
and organizing, then falling in around getting John Kerry elected, the candidate who
did not want to win. UPFJ and the 800 groups under their 'umbrella' was like a
"slot" for people to run to who decided to oppose the war. Mustn't let them form
groups on their own --- create some for them, with different flavors.)

While the CIA excelled in creating and sponsoring "fake" non-communist Leftist
groups, conferences, publications, art, and music, Intelligence and the Business
Community also played a role in organizing an overt right wing resistance to
communism/socialism/labor activism under the banners of religion, capitalism, and
patriotism.

There really was an active fascist right in America in the 30's and 40's, and they
all spoke of patriotism, God, and Christ, and many openly praised Adolf Hitler. JBS
came later in that tradition, during the Cold War.
Here's some links I have found
http://www.Takeoverworld.info/jbs-cnp.html
http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/53-index.html
http://www.Takeoverworld.info/overclass.html

my webpages are often reproductions + commentary of other websites, and credited as
such
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[Tom Plewer]

Hier ein etwas fehlgeschlagener Versuch von mir, meine Vorschlaege umzusetzen - zu
Demonstrationszwecken.
Auf einem englischsprachigem Forum wurde ich direkt aufgefordert das mal zu machen
und dabei kam dann so eine ad-hoc Aktion heraus. Das Thema ist im weitesten Sinne
das Thema dieses Threads:
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewt....postorder=asc&start=0
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[Tom Plewer]

Zu Anthony Sutton hat Gary auch einiges zu sagen
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34725#34725
Zumindest sollte man sich in diesem Zusammenhang mal den Namen Patrick O'Malley
merken...
Allgemein wird Alex Jones auf breakfornews.com gebashed...durchaus mit guten
Argumenten, wenn auch - wie so oft - schwer nachpruefbar.
Zum Beispiel die "Es sind die Jesuiten" - Glaeubigen halten Ihm vor, dass er alles
ausser dem Thema zu diskutieren bereit ist...
Allgemein kann man hier von einem tieferen Einsinken in den Kaninchenbau sprechen:
Die 9/11 - Bewegung ist von Anfang an infiltriert worden und es werden falsche
Informationen gestreut. Wenn ihr mich fragt ein Grund mehr, alles, was man ernst
nehmen will, genau zu ueberpruefen.
Bei Earthfiles.de bin ich mit meiner Kampagne fuer mehr Wissenschaftlichkeit im
Bereich der "Grenzwissenschaften" auf Granit gestossen...
aber wer weiss, der stete Tropfen hoehlt den harten Stein...
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